HGH Surge An Hgh Supplement Review

Hgh Surge is a human [tag-tec]growth hormone[/tag-tec] releasing supplement in pill form.  It comes to us from one of the more respected nutritional supplement manufacturers, Source Naturals.

The fun part of this product is the use of a multifaceted approach to promote increased levels of human growth hormone release.  Hgh Surge uses the standard amino acids along with herbs and vitamins that stimulate neurotransmitters.

Oh boy!  I usually love vitamins that mess with my neurotransmitters.

The Bio Aligned ingredients are:

Niacin (as inositol nicotinate)  400 mg
Chromium 200 mcg
(as chromium polyniconate & chromium picolinate)
L-Arginine L-Pyroglutamate  1g
L-Lysine HCL  750 mg
L-Glutamine  500 mg
Acetyl L-Carnitine  450 mg
Glycine 400 mg
GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid) 350 mg
Velvet Bean Standardized Extract 15%  300 mg
  Yielding 45 mg L-Dopa
L-Ornithine HCL  250 mg
Ornithine Ketoglutarate  250 mg
L-Citruline  250 mg
DMAE (as bitarate)   100 mg
Ginko Leaf Extract  (50:1) 25% Flavoneglycosides  100 mg
5-HTP  (L-Hydroxytryptophan)  50 mg
Toothed Clubmoss   5 mg
  Standardized Extract 1% Yielding 50 mcg Huperzines A & B

How wonderfully refreshing to find an hgh product that lists all the ingredients in the exact amounts.  None of the usual proprietary blend BS.  Of course this product comes from a company that would be tough to compete with when it comes down to distribution and price.

Hgh Surge contains just enough amino acids to start the process going. Leaning mostly on the combination of arginine pyroglutamate and lysine.  Enough aminos for anti-aging but the bodybuilding crowd will probably want to supplement it with increased amino acid dosages.

The biggest draw back is that these are large tablets.  So if you have a problem swallowing pills, this is not the product for you.

The real fun is the part where they mess with your brain chemistry.  Designed to have a mood enhancing and mental clarity effect by boosting levels of dopamine, serotonin, and acetylcholine for starters.  Good stuff that also stimulates natural growth hormone release.

However, this is not a product to take if you are on prescription drugs for mood enhancement or taking MAO inhibitors.  Tread carefully or talk to a integrative medicine trained physician.  

Also the brain chemistry change can make for more active dreaming.  This can be both good and bad depending on what you have going on inside your head.

Our private group of guinea pigs have been experimenting with this product for a couple of months.  Some people really liked it and some preferred to have less of a brain stimulus.  Nobody hated it.

Being a bit hardcore and experienced, I started with the maximum dosage of five tablets.  I would recommend that most people start out with one tablet and increase the dosage by one tablet per day.

Nothing dangerous here.  All people tend to react differently to changes in brain neurotransmitter levels and we always like to error on the side of caution.

Source Natural describes the product as a growth hormone enhancer for youthful vitality and it is that.  It is probably not the product for the weight lifting group though it can be a nice addition to a primarily amino acid product regime.

The supplement’s grade blends the needs of both groups.  As just an age management product it would rate higher and used as a sports supplement it would rate lower.

That is right, we usually mention cost.  The suggested retail price is $36.50 for the 150 tablet bottle.  There are options to buy it with only 50 or 100 tablets per bottle so be careful when doing price comparisons. 

We found the 150 capsule bottle was easily available discounted to under $20 making this a very high value option.

HGH Surge receives an hgh supplement review rating of B.

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137 Responses to HGH Surge An Hgh Supplement Review

  1. Glenn says:

    The more I read your site, the more entertained and informed I become. Thank you.

    I like most of the ingredients and ratios of HGH Surge because it contains a lot of what I seek. However, the RDA’s that I’ve seen are so much higher that what this and most other products contain. You’ve said that manufacturers omit effective amounts to save $$ and they end up doing no good. So, instead of supplementing HGH Surge with different ingredients to get better results, I’m interested in creating my own hgh stack.

    Clearly it’s not an exact science and dosages for individuals will vary. I’m creating what I think is a good stack, but I’d appreciate your advice and opinions (and a preemptive thanks for indulging the shear volume and overlapping of my questions):

    L-arginine, among others, may be more effective taken morning AND evening. But you’ve suggested when starting out, stick to just once a day, evenings on an empty stomach. How do you know when to incorporate extra doses? Do you just feel it? You’ve said yourself that you’ve tried dozens of combinations.

    On that note, I put together a stack just for the morning which has less amino acids, more of the energy and cognitive boosters. At some point, though, would you advise adding the aminos or just stick with a bedtime dose for best hgh release?

    L-arginine pyroglutamate seems to be more effective than arginine, particularly when combined with L-lysine. While RDA’s for arginine are 4-10 g, for APG it seems lower. The combo products typically recommend 1500 mg APG and 750 mg lysine. Twice as much APG, like HGH Surge has. Dr. Giampapa recommends that too, but he suggests 2 g arginine and 1 g lysine. On the other hand, csmngt.com has a formula with equal amounts at 3 g. What’s your opinion? How much bearing do RDA’s have when starting out? It’s been suggested to start at 25% of your target and increase over the next few days. If so, would that be among all of the ingredients equally?

    Regarding ratios, you’ve said “The ratio can make a big difference. Different amino acids require different dosages and some combinations can interfere with each other. Also a gh stack really needs to have at least one of the amino acids to be at or near the minimum amount required if that amino acid was used alone.” Could you please elaborate?

    I have about 14 ingredients in my proposed stack. How can you tell which amounts to adjust to be more effective? Is it like you said, just play around with ‘em? Or would you advise starting with just a few things and eventually add ingredients once you know the effects of different ones?

    You mentioned that in the past you added 2 g of ornithine to a product, 3 times a week. Why wouldn’t you include it in the entire cycle, which I assume is 5 days on and 2 days off? Also, HGH Surge has L-ornithine hcl and OKG, 250 mg each. Is it more effective to combine them? Or, as you’ve said, OKG is better than ornithine AND glutamine. So, would you substitute OKG for both, or either?

    Niacin. You liked a 5 to 1 ratio to arginine, starting with 500 mg arginine and 100 mg niacin, increasing up to 4 times the amount (as in above, start off at 25% of target). Also, to be taken at bedtime, whereas you suggested taking them together before a workout. Additionally, I’ve seen niacin RDA’s as high as 1 to 3 g and as low as 100 mg or less. What are your thoughts?

    I wondered about the COMBINATIONS of different ingredients like niacin and arginine, or APG and l-lysine. My bedtime stack contains nothing, so far, that I have in my morning stack, which, for example, has alpha lipoic acid and acetyl-l-carnitine. Would those and/or other anti-oxidants be better served in combination with other aminos or ingredients?

    I never noticed any benefit from taking creatine. How do you feel about it? Would it be a benefit in combination with hgh, or would it just get lost in the shuffle, or might I still not notice any benefit from it like before?

    I’ve seen alpha-lipoic acid sold in R-ALA form, twice as potent as (synthetic) S-ALA, according to raysahelian.com. There are so many brands and products out there. What sorts of things like this, one product with different formulations, other than continuing research, should I look for in finding the best quality ingredients to make my own stack?

    Quite simply, the label directions would probably be the best guideline. How far from those would you ever really venture, if some published research indicates higher RDA’s?

    There’s an overwhelming number of choices online to purchase these things. You’ve suggested Vitamin Shoppe and Vitacost as good online retailers. (They’re great. Thanks.) What brands do you recommend in regard to ingredients like those found in HGH Surge and Secretagogue Gold (my next choice)? Do you normally stick with a common brand like Source Naturals, or do you mix it up among all of the ingredients you use? Do you like combo products like the aforementioned APG & L-lysine or do you prefer to mix it yourself?

    Lastly, you talked about your early hgh days, and runs on the beach, which felt like you were floating (man, I miss those days when I lived at the beach and ran in the sand!) Could you talk more about the strong hgh stack in the beginning of a run and another concoction at the end? I realize I need to be patient before I get close to that point but I’m still interested in your experiences with it.

    Thank you very much for your answers to a lot of questions. I’m anxious to start but I won’t start until I’m informed and comfortable. And thanks again for your website and all the work that you put into it.

  2. hgh truths says:


    Sorry, but I just do not have the time at the moment to cover all your questions. we will be cover most of this in a series of future posts.

    Just want to cover a few points.

    RDA stands for recommended daily allowance. The government has specific amounts for a whole lists of vitamins. Amino acids do not have actual RDA’s. Your actually talking about different people’s suggested dosages.

    One of the main amino problems is that Arginine and lysine compete for the same receptor sites. Arginine Pyroglutamate and Lysine do not.

    Ray Sahelian was more interesting and had more credibility back when he was not selling supplements.

    I stick with brands that i know and respect.

    Start with a stack of one ingredient. Play with the dosages and see how you feel/react. Then start doing a second ingredient the same way. Then try the two together. Play around until you come up with a mix you like.

  3. jeff says:

    I am suject to random drug testing for opiates, amphetamines, thc, etc. Could any of the ingredients in HGH Surge, Secretagogue, or Life Renewel result in a positive or false positive result? When I see comments on brain chemistry it gets my attention. Thanks

  4. hgh truths says:

    There is nothing in there that should test as a controlled substance. Your best bet is to check with the people who do the testing. The best defense is a good offense.

  5. Carol says:

    I am 53, post-menapausal, fitness instructor for 25 years, finally having to slow down, gaining weight, not being able to fall asleep, moody and hating life. Which is best for weight-loss and these symptoms? what good supplement would you add as well?

  6. hgh truths says:

    Hgh Surge and Secretagogue Gold are both good products. It is a matter of individual preference. As we talk about above, some people might not like the brain chemistry approach.

    I believe the green superfoods are always a good addition.

  7. Brian says:

    i’ve been looking at this product and hgh1000, since seeing your review i’m thinking twice about hgh1000 and leaning towards this, i just turned 3o, and i’ve had a high metabolism been able to eat what ever i want, when ever i want and stay thin, though over the last year or so i’ve started to notice some love handles and a bit of a stomach, which can be expected i guess when you get older, will this product help me lose a couple lbs? i dont have a lot of time to excercise since working 50 hours a week and going to back to school during weekends and evenings, right now i’m about 5’10.5 and 155ish lbs, would like to just lose the extra weight that’s starting to show in my stomach, will this help me or can you recommend something, obviously starting to exercise will help, but will any hgh supplement help me too?

  8. admin says:

    Hgh supplements are not really “weightloss” products.

    At 30 you are just into the entry level age for these products.

    If you are worried about the love handles thing just find some time for high aerobic exercise and manage the diet a little bit. You will be fine.

  9. amy says:

    Can I safely take any of these HGH products while pregnant?

  10. hgh truths says:

    None of these products are recommended for women who are pregnant or nursing.

    Try spirulina or chlorella. The are generally accepted to give safe benefits to both the mother and baby.

    Give the hgh a shot in about a year.

  11. Gene says:

    Hi, I already ordered Secretagogue Gold after reading your review but I am also interested in hgh surge. I am 51 and somewhat active… I do about 10-15 miles per week jogging. would a small dosage of hgh surge be OK with the Secretagogue Gold? Thanks, gene.

  12. hgh truths says:


    Somewhere out there in the comment universe we talked about this.

    I believe it is OK. In fact after testing a couple of crappy products I am about to do a couple of weeks of Gold and Surge to get back on track.

    My suggestion is that you take them each separately first. At the very least for a week each and even better a month each. Then experiment with the combination.

  13. Matt says:

    hi, iwanted to know if this will work for a younger guy and if it will increase muscle/mass

  14. hgh truths says:


    Even the best hgh supplements are of little value to younger guys. Under 30 and have the best effects for people over 40.

  15. Jason says:

    I was thinking about stacking HGH Surge with BCAA’s. In addition, I like to use NO-Explode as a pre-workout supplement. Would any of these products interfere with eachother?

  16. hgh truths says:


    Hgh Surge and the BCAA’s should not be a problem to take together. Using NO-explode pre-workout should not be a problem either.

    The thing with arginine intensive supplements is that if you do not have a diet rich in anti-oxidants, you want to add in a good supplement that takes care of this void.

  17. Jason says:

    First off I just want thank you for your quick response and especially for this website. This is truly a great service you are doing for those of us interested in learning about some of the supplements we are putting into our bodies. And I definitely be sure to get my daily dose of anit-oxidants per your advice.

    My question: I noticed in another response you said that Arginine Pyroglutamate & Lysine do not compete for the same receptors but Arginine and Lysine do. No-Explode’s Proprietary Blend contains L-Arginine AKG. Would that possibly interfere with my HGH Surge?

  18. hgh truths says:


    Inspite of the stupid proprietary labeling that BSN insists on using for No-Explode, it is supposed to be a pretty good product.

    I am assuming that when you say you are taking the No-Explode before your workout that there is a gap between the end of the workout and the time when you take HGH Surge. Therefore, all the arginine should have been used up by your body during an intense workout. So there should be no conflict when you take the Surge later.

  19. Ed says:

    Hi, here is my question: I have been taking HGH Surge for about 30 days (before bed) but the active dreaming interrupts my sleep and I’m tired in the morning. Is it OK to take this product in the morning before or after breakfast? Thanks!

  20. hgh truths says:


    If you want to try morning, you want to take it first thing and try to wait 30 minutes before breakfast.

  21. Bourni says:

    Sorry… Back here again with more questions…
    I already told you in your Genf20 review I bought a 2 month supply of the Genf20 HGH and now I want to buy more but I’m kinda indecided about which one to get. I was about to buy Secretagogue Gold, but I just found out the product from this review for more or less 20 box (150 pills), almost half of the price of Secretagogue Gold… You said if t’s used as a sports supplement it would rate lower. Ok but if I’m already taking Optimum Whey Protein and Albumen, would I need to care about amino acids dosages in this case? Should I look for a product that has more amino acids since I’m already taking whey protein or whey protein + HGH Surge is enough (+ genf20 for one or two months)? I think taking both together I’ll not need more amino acids am I wrong? I’m 46, good shape and work out, so I want both: anti aging and sports supplement… I saw Universal GH stack also… Sorry but I need your help to decide which one to get and how to take all this stuff. Price is important to me. I take whey protein, creatine, dextrose and albumen and I’m going to take a two month supply of genf20 + another HGH to complement the week Genf20 but when the Genf20 finishes I’ll continue with just the other HGH I’ll buy and I don’t know which to choose: I read all ratings of your reviews and have to decide between these: Secretagogue Gold (the best but expensive), Secretagogue One, GH Stack Universal and HGH Surge. Would you tell me which one is the best for my case considering the price and benfits? I know it’s a special request but how should I take all these suplemments together? Whey protein, creatine albumen, dextrose, Genf20 and the new HGH you’ll help me to choose (but I’m seriously thinking about the one fro this review)? And when Genf20 finishes and I keep on taking the other Hgh supplement, how would I take it with the other stuff?
    Just one more question… About the brain stimulus… Does this thing gets you kinda of high? Not bad at all if it does, hahaha. I’m joking… Not I’m not, hahaha. Seriously, what does this thing do to your head?
    I’m sorry for bothering you with my questions it’s because I don’t want to spend money and take all these suplemments in a way that one can inhibit the action of the other.
    Thanks. You have no idea how you guys are helping me!

    • hgh truths says:

      The whey protein and its amino acids don’t really figure into the hgh equation because you take that at a different time of day and they work differently.

      Hgh is taken separately to facilitate a more rapid uptake into the system. All the products you are talking about are good products. Genf20 being the exception.

      HGH Surge does not really get you “high” but there can be a little bit of what most people would call a pleasant buzz. If this concerns you, buy something else.

      I would be least likely to recommend Secretagogue One to mix with Genf20 because there is no need to double up on the anterior pituitary dose.

  22. Ja says:

    There have been many younger athletes asking you questions about the use of hgh in order to increase recovery time, muscle mass, etc. The truth is, we are competitors who want to gain an edge.

    HGH is usefull for aging people to stay in form. That is understood. But can you please refer one of the substances you graded best that contains what is usefull in those areas. Or something healthy that can contribute to our bodies in that way. Or what substance specifically aids in those areas.

    thank you and this site is very usefull

    • hgh truths says:


      The best thing for younger athletes is quality protein supplements. Multi-stage protein products with more than one protein source.

      A good multi-vitamin never hurts. Also really good green super food products containing spirulina and chlorella are great. Find one that does not have any herbs added to it. My favorite product is called Green Magic.

  23. Eric says:

    Your reviews are very informative, and I appreciate your time. I am 34, very active and I work out 4 days a week. I take the GNC mega men vitamin, as well as whey protein each morning. Your article states that for lifters the surge lacks the BCAA’s, and that you should supplement with your own. Since the vitamins and the whey have the BCAA’s, do I need to be taking an additional amount of amino’s and should I be taken them when I take the HGH surge, or is taking them in the morning the same. Do you recomend an additional BCAA product and do you take them simulateanously with the surge. Also is it best to take the surge prior to workouts, or at night?


    • hgh truths says:

      We didn’t really talk about BCAA’s in the article. We did say that body builders would probably want to take some extra amino acids. Probably the best extra ingredients would be an extra gram or two eack of argining pyroglutamate and lysine. This should be taken at the same time you take the hgh surge.

  24. Eric says:

    Wow, that was fast, thanks. Is the surge best taken before workouts or before you go to sleep?

    • hgh truths says:

      Try before sleep first. Sometimes that is to enegizing for people or they can’t handle the extra dreaming.
      Go for first thing in the morning as your second choice.
      Before workouts would be the third choice.

  25. eric says:

    Is there any difference between L-Arginine and arginine pyroglutamate?

    • hgh truths says:

      L-arginine and arginine pyroglutamate are definitely different. one is straight arginine and the other is arginine bonded with pyroglutamte.

  26. eric says:

    I just read on Synergy4Life.com…DO NOT take L-arginine with L-lysine. These two aminos compete with each other to cross the blood-brain barrier. Arginine Pyroglutamate absolutely DOES compete with Lysine.
    NO form of L-arginine can cross the blood-brain-barrier if it is taken within 2 hours of Lysine.
    After 23 years of L-arginine research, the rules of arginine biochemistry do not change because companies marketing arginine pyroglutamate make up ridiculous statements. What does this mean, I just bought some L-Lysine and L-Arginine to take with the HGH Surge…

    • hgh truths says:

      The website you are quoting is just a distributor for a mlm/network marketing outfit. Those companies are usually the ones making the most ridiculous statements so that they kind sell over priced supplements at crappy discounts. Not a good source for authoritative information.

      While arginine and lysine do compete with each other lysine for receptor sites, lysine does not prevent all arginine from being absorbed. The combination together is still better than either one alone with regards to hgh release. You just need to use more of both. However, neither one is that great an hgh releaser to begin with.

      Arginine Pyroglutamate and Lysine DO NOT compete for the same receptor sites. This is a far more effective amino acid combination. There is about 30 years of research on that.

      The company making things up here is the mlm marketing company trying to push its product. That is no surprise.

      We don’t have to shovel BS to sell supplements because we do not sell supplements.

  27. thomas y says:

    My son who is 18 and has been an athlete all is life, baseball, cross country, wrestling. He is graduating this year. He broke his bone near the ankle and tore all the muscles in that area some 2 months ago. Will be in a boot cast another 4 weeks or so. He wants to really start working out again and wants to take hgh. You have stated in an earlier post that you do not reccommend taking hgh for young athletics.

    “hgh truths // Mar 14, 2009 at 11:53 am


    The best thing for younger athletes is quality protein supplements. Multi-stage protein products with more than one protein source.

    A good multi-vitamin never hurts. Also really good green super food products containing spirulina and chlorella are great. Find one that does not have any herbs added to it. My favorite product is called Green Magic.”

    With that being said. What else can be said to an strong headed 18 year old who reads and now believes that hgh1000 is the way to go to build a hercules body.
    Note he his built very well. Great Chest,shoulders,arms,. I wish I was built like him.

    Jeremy’s Dad.
    P.S. thank you for a very informative web site on the truths on hgh.

    • hgh truths says:

      Thomas Y,
      I remember what an “idiot” I was at 18. Just the way of the young male. Mostly because they are already a surging pile of hormones. Even the hgh shots would have nothing to do with building muscle. Any of the hgh supplements would be worthless. The whole thing about muscle building is a sports nutrition myth extracted from studies done with older adults using injectable hgh. Hgh really has more of a fat burning effect than a muscle building effect.

      The person in your family that would most benefit from a good hgh product is probably you. get some and start training with your son. :)

      Your son should stay on a good nutrition system and maybe try some exercise styles that aren’t as normal for an 18 year old male. Say yoga and pilates. The stretching and building of elongated strength builds a stronger base for the weight training. This would be even more true when coming off a nasty injury.

  28. Vera says:

    Thank you for a great site!(:   I am a 60 yr. young female. In very good health but I have an under active thyroid and a blood pressure issue, yes I take rx’s for them. I have just started my investigating hgh and luckily found you. I have decided on buying either  Hgh Surge or Secretagogue Gold.  Hgh Surge says on the warning do not take if you have high blood presure.  What should I do? One last question, what do you mean when you say second cycle a product? Will I need two different products soon? Thank You Sooo Much (:

    • hgh truths says:

      HGH Surge does have a specific high blood pressure warning. Don’t you just love legitamate supplement companies that tell the truth rather than lie just to sell more products?

      So either take the Secretagogue Gold or monitor your blood pressure carefully. Theoretically the increased dopamine should help lower blood pressure.

      I am not sure where the second cycle a product is coming from. You really only need the one product.

  29. ronke says:

    I love/am overwhelmed by all the info on your website! I am a 61 year old woman who has been on Longevity 4 for years and years. This is the product from Longevity Corp. not the Longevity HGHR you review. It was originally “prescribed” by my OB/GYN. It does alas have a proprietory blend and requires buying 6 bottles at a time to get them at $15 a pop (which seems pretty reasonable) but I have noticed a devastating loss in energy when I run out. With the economy and household finances in freefall I recently tried to cobble together my own (sort of cheaper) blend out of Jarrow’s glycine, arginine/ornithine and l-glutamine, mixing the powdered glycine in water and taking it with the other two capsules. Energy seems pretty good but in stumbling onto your site I am now wondering if I need all three products. I would love to try this Secretagogue Gold but I’m pretty sure the budget couldn’t stand it. The HGH Surge just scares me a little… unmanageable anger from one commenter, active dreaming from you. Still it sits in my Vitacost shopping cart until I make a decision. I do take antioxidants and NAC sustain (no idea why really but also prescribed by MD) and am intrigued by your enthusiasm for greens… though we grow and eat a lot of fresh stuff so I’m not sure I need bottled versions. Any recommendation on the HGH Surge vs my dot it yourself blend? Thanks.

    • hgh truths says:

      The Longevity 4 you are taking and Longevity HGHR are made by two different companies. The Longevity 4 is just a simple blend of less than 2 grams of amino acids. We are posting a review later today on GHR Essentials from Swanson Vitamins. This product is a couple of notches better than what you have been taking and always sells for less than $16.

      Right now. 4/19/09, they are having a BOGO sale. Buy one get one free. Figuring in shipping that would bring it in at a monthly cost of under $6 for you.

  30. ronke says:

    Oh, fantastic! I had just about decided to spring for the Universal GH Max and some lysine from Source Naturals but I will definitely take a look at the GHR Essentials. The common sense of your site as a godsend for those of us trying to wade through the morass of claims and counterclaims. Thank you so much.

  31. Kevin says:

    What is the reason for the high dose of niacin in this product? It has something like 2000% RDA .Would such a high dose be harmful over a long period of time?

    • hgh truths says:

      RDA is a shot in the dark system invented by the goverment. Basically the minimum amounts they think people need to remain above groud. Niacin is a great builing block for various components of the krebs cycle.

      I have taken dosages this size or larger for years and am still breathing.

  32. Bourni says:

    Is it OK to take the 5 tabs with a protein shake (whey + casein + albumen) before sleep?

    • hgh truths says:

      No it is not OK to take it with a protein shake. There is no differnce between taking a protein shake and eating food. The digestive process involved will pretty much make taking the hgh surge a waste.

  33. Bourni says:

    Ok, thanks for your response, but how am I suppposed to take both protein shake and HGH Surge before sleep? I mean which one should I take first and how many time will I have to wait to the other? I eat each 3 hours and it’s hard to find me with an empty stomach… If I take HGH Surge as first thing in the morning, I’ll have to wait one hour or two to eat something, right?

    • hgh truths says:

      There is no practical way to take both before sleep on an empty stomach. If i was going to switch anything to the morning it would be the protein shake.

  34. Nate says:


    This is by far the most informative site I’ve come across concerning HGH. Excellent work – I’m sure everyone out there really appreciates your effort.

    I’m a 30 year old law student in NYC. 6’1″ and 175 lbs., pretty avid runner (30 – 35 miles a week). I’ve always tried to gain a bit more muscle mass but with the amount of cardio I do maybe it’s not in the cards for me…

    After reading your reviews it seems the best bets for trying out an HGH supplement is either HGH Surge or Secretagogue Gold. Would you recommend one over the other? One concern with the HGH Surge is whether it may have any adverse effects on sleeping as I’ve had issues with insomnia in the past…

    Also, if you wouldn’t mind giving your thoughts on a good protein supplement and multivitamin that would be excellent (I currently use Muscle Milk for protein and Ultra Source of Life for the vitamins).

    Thanks so much!! Keep up the great work.

    • hgh truths says:

      Even with the high level of cardio, you should be able to put on muscle with good old fashion iron pumping.

      You are asking about two good but different products. The thing to do might be to buy a small 50 tablet bottle of HGH Surge and a box of Secretagogue Gold. Do a personal comparison and see which works best for you.

      Muscle Milk seems like a good protein blend and Ultra Source for Life is a very complete multi vitamin.

  35. Anthony says:

    I am currently prescribed zoloft. What kind of effect would that have with surge? I am a 31 yr old male. Thanks for all of your info.

    • hgh truths says:

      Standard medical disclaimer is to ask your doctor. As practical advice, among the better products, HGH Surge is probably the hgh supplement you should probably not be taking. If you do, proceed slowly.

  36. Corey says:

    quick question, Im a 39 year old male taking hgh for the 1st time. I took Secretegogue Gold for 1 1/2 months but switched to HGH Surge 1 1/2 months ago because i wanted a pill form and the gold was giving me headaches. Anyway – i cycled it 5 on and 2 off all this time and im not noticing anything at all. If anything – im noticing a decrease in energy in the past 3 months ….and thats it. Any thoughts? Thanks so much.

    • hgh truths says:

      Not sure what to say because nobody else i know has reported anything similar. Try switching to taking Surge in the mornig and see if that makes a difference. There is a chance that you would be better off with a straight amino acid product.

  37. Corey says:

    …more info. i work out like 4-5 times per week (weights… ).. and im 5’10 164. Ive worked out like this for 15 years – so nothing new there. Just a decrease in energy – the opposite of what i was expecting. I take it at night right before bed …almost always 2 hours after eating but once in a while i snack lightly and take the pills before 2 hours have elapsed and go to bed….just due to hunger. No diff in muscle, fat or anything – just less energy. thanks!

  38. Corey says:

    ok Ill try that. Im taking it for the anti-aging properties – not muscle building or increase in energy …so i dont mind not feeling anything – but being more tired threw me off. I take lysine already – and i dont want to not take an HGH product at all. …so ill take it in the am and see how it goes. Whats the minimum i have to wait after i take it to eat – 1 hour, 2 hours? I like to get the metabolism going…and i get hungry. thanks for the reply! Corey

  39. Corey says:

    Thank you – i appreciate it!

  40. Corey says:

    Hi again – sorry to bother you but you seem so imformative and knowledgeable on nutrition i thought i’d ask you this question. Im taking the HGH surge as I said above. Over the past 4-5 months I’ve gained about 10 lbs – partially due to not working out as much (busy) and also bad eating habits. …so here’s my question. I am lean and my ideal weight at about 162lbs – and now at 172lbs. I drink a lot of caffeine to keep my energy up and now that im trying to lose weight – i keep my calories at about 1000-1200/day. Ill lose 1-2 lbs/week doing that. My question is – do you have any products that you know of that are good for weight loss/energy? Do you know of any supplements that would help me – im not trying to get bulky – just lean and in shape more. Like protein, amino acids – anything specific? Problem is protein supplements have also always seemed to make me gain weight. Thats it …any other info you need I can provide. Thanks in advance! Corey

  41. Corey says:

    I already eat every 2 hours – snacks… and have done this 10 lb yo yo 3 times over the past 2 years – and i dont like regulating my food to 1000 calories – but im very self conscious about it. So thats it – just anything you can think of nutritionally that would help me out. Thanks – i love your site!!

    • hgh truths says:

      For natural energy try a good super foods product like Green Magic.

      For the less natural variety, you need an ECA Stack. Ephedra, caffeine and aspirin. yes, I know that ephedra has a bad rap but in dosages under 25 mg it is not much of a problem. At least if you don’t have blood pressure issues. This will raise metabolism and help with weight loss. The only problem is that you need to cycle and wean yourself off of it when you are done.

      I don’t do real low calories when I diet. the body tends to adjust its metabolism to the lower level of intake. I reduce the calories of the general diet and go for very low calories or fasting a couple of days a week.

  42. Dave says:

    I have been chubby for a long time however quite athletic. I am 30 years old/200 lbs and pretty active. Would the Gold assist me in my running, pushup, situp routine to tighten up my chest and stomach?

    • hgh truths says:

      You are just starting to enter the age zone where taking the Gold can make a difference. It won’t be a waste of money, just not as effect as for a 40 year old.

      The only thing that usually works for chubby is some calorie restriction combined with extra aerobic exercise. Though I usually feel healthier 5 to 10% over what the charts say I should weigh, I am about to start on a program myself. My weight snuck up an extra 10% over a year and a half of decreased activity.

  43. Dave says:

    Thank you.

    I’m 6’1″ – 200 so it’s not too bad but I have one of those bodies stacked in the chest and waist….love to finally get rid of it. I eat pretty healthy and run+sports but can’t seem to shake it…was hoping the Gold would help.

  44. Corey says:

    Thanks – i appreciate it! I have ephedra 25mg (with 200mg guiafenesin in it) and caffeine pills – so ill do that with the aspirin. I usually only take it when i need to stay up all day – but you’re right – back in the day – i took Xenadrine that had the ephedra in it and liked it. …The new Xenadrine RFA-1 – any thoughts on that? I take that now… and dont see much other than a tiny bit of energy sometimes. I have low blood pressure so I’ll be ok with that aspect. And fasting – ive never thought of that – that wont kill your metabolism? …ill check into the Green Magic too – thanks again!

    • hgh truths says:

      The newer products don’t appear to have the kick that natural ephedra does. Ephedra got a bad rap a few years back because of a combination of greedy marketers and stupid consumers. The only newer product that seems to do much is hoodia but that works as a mild appetite suppressant and there does not seem to be much consistency in quality.

      Your bodies metabolism does adjust down to your level of calorie intake but it takes a few days to do it. If you are at 1200 calories per day and every third day go for 700 you will lose more weight than at 100 calories per day. The closer you can take the “fasting day” to zero the faster the weight will come off.

      Personally I am not great at zero calories so I make it a day of nothing but snacks of lightly steamed veggies.

  45. Corey says:

    (i meant if i needed to stay up all night) ..lol thanks!

  46. Corey says:

    Ive never in my life been able to fast either – but i can do veggie day – that sounds like a good plan. Thanks for the info – you’re great and have a ton of knowledge! Great site too!! – Corey

  47. Anthony says:

    Is it ok to take surge while taking a prohormone cycle? I’m about to start a hemadrol/propadrol stack. I’m a 31 yr old male. Thanks

  48. Francine says:

    I’m 60, active, biking, horse rider, would love to run again if the knees wouldn’t cave in…think this would help?

    • hgh truths says:

      Doubt if it would hurt and would most likely help. My damaged joints really appreciate liquid glucosamine.

  49. JIM24 says:

    does this product make you grow taller??

  50. Anthony says:

    Lower doses of surge or prohormones?

    • hgh truths says:

      I assumed that you considered the prohormones to be the main product you were taking so that would mean lower dosages of Surge.

  51. JP says:

    First off, thanks for providing this website as a resource. Lot of good information! I was wondering if you could share any insight on which ingredient(s) in HGH Surge prompts Source Naturals to list the following warning on their label: “Warning: This product contains a chemical known in the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm.”? Thanks for any information you can provide.

  52. Jefferson says:

    I’m glad I caught this before buying it: “Warning: This product contains a chemical known in the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm.”

    • hgh truths says:

      The majority of these growth hormone products should not be taken by someone who is pregnant. The interesting thing here is that the ingredients in question are in hundreds of other products and Source naturals is the only company to fully disclose the truth on the label. Imagine that, a supplement company that fully complies with all the labeling laws. I guess there had to be at least one.

      The other side to this is that California’s Prop 65 has a list of 800+ chemicals that can be considered toxic and if there is a chance of exposure to 1/1000 of the minimum toxic dosage you have to report it. Just last year the state bureaucrats were trying to say that any vitamin or mineral taken in excess of the old RDA regulations would qualify as toxic. If California’s regulations were fully followed every bottle of beer or aspirin would need a label as would any vitamin product with Vitamin A in it.

      Any California business that does not comply with the laws can be sued by anybody based on potential harm and not actual harm.

  53. Jefferson says:

    Thank you. I was referring to JP’s comment where he asked which ingredient(s) the warning is referring to. HGH Surge from Source Naturals is an all-natural product right?

  54. Jefferson says:

    Also, I’m thinking of trying a maca product called Macalibrium. Do you know if that would be okay to take with HGH Surge?

  55. Jefferson says:

    Thanks for the info. Do you know which chemical(s) found in HGH Surge might qualify as potentially toxic according to California’s Prop 65 and/or RDA regulations?

    I went ahead and ordered HGH Surge and also a product called Revolution Maca. I think I’ll take the HGH Surge before bed, and take the Revolution Maca in the morning and late afternoon. After the three month cycle of both, I would like to switch to taking Secretagogue One and Secretagogue Gold for a three month cycle(and take one before bed and the other in the morning).

    • hgh truths says:

      Maca is good stuff. Give the cycle a try and see how it works for you but I would still try the Surge by itself for a few days and the maca by itself for a few days before doing a combination.

      DMAE requires a California prop 65 warning not as a dietary supplement because of manufacturing. If you dump a barrel of the stuff on you it could have negative effects.

      Ginko can require a warning because it can sometimes have trace amounts of lead in it. Gee who would ever think a tree leaf might absorbe a little lead from the ground or air?

      The reality is that you have a greater chance of health damege from breathing the air in Los Angeles than you do from taking these ingredients in dietary supplements.

      I wonder if the have Prop 65 warning signs on Hollywood Blvd.?

  56. Jefferson says:

    Thanks again! I read that Arginine and Lysine compete for the same receptor sites, so I would also like to ask if caffeine and/or Tyrosine compete for any of the same receptor sites as each other and/or with any of the ingredients found in Surge?

    I’m taking 500mg of Tyrosine first thing in the morning with a bottled yerba matte caffeine drink before my workout(I take Surge at bedtime), and 500 mg of straight Arginine in the late morning and 500mg of straight Arginine in the late afternoon. I’m taking Revolution Maca about the same time that I take the straight Arginine, and I have not experienced any adverse effects form taking both Surge and Revolution Maca(I give at least 8 hours between taking Maca and Surge). In fact, I’ve only been working out regularly and taking both Maca and Surge for less than a week and I already feel much better. Although I was hoping to see more of an increase in my libido and testosterone levels from all of this(my workout, The 3X Method, is actually geared towards increasing testosterone). Perhaps this will come gradually as I continue to workout, practice martial arts, take Maca and Surge, good multivitamins, and plenty of protein(not within the same 2 hour time-frame as taking Surge or Maca of course)…

    • hgh truths says:

      Off the top of my head i can’t give you an answer about tyrosine and caffeine competing for receptor sites. But at that dosage level you should have plenty of receptor sites for both. As far as competing with the HGh Surge, there is no problem. Anything you take in the morning is going to be fully utilized by your system long before bedtime.

      I could use a good latte right about now!

  57. Jefferson says:

    I forgot to ask one other important question.

    The Surge bottle says to take 5 tablets at bedtime “AND/OR” before a workout.

    As I mentioned, I take Surge at bedtime, because the Revolution Maca(which you might review at some point?) says to take Maca during the day.

    In regard to the “AND/OR” on the Surge bottle…

    Is it recommended to take Surge twice a day(10 tablets total)? Doing this probably wouldn’t work well with taking Maca(as it would be hard to space them out)… I just want to know how beneficial it is to take Surge only once a day(5 tablets)?

  58. Cindy says:

    I was pleasently surprized with this web site.
    I am 47 and have been wanting to try an hgh product. I am very active and am thinking the gold would be wonderful for me to try.
    I want to know if there are any cases of decreased energies after you have been taking this and then stop…
    Also I drink coffee.. would that bother me on this? I do not like anything in my system that makes me jittery.. And no coffee doesn’t do that to me..lol I drink oganic.. :-)

    • hgh truths says:

      I don’t have a problem with mixing coffee and hgh supplements. Though I do drink less coffee.

      Most hgh supplements won’t make you jittery. Often they have the opposite effect.

  59. Cindy says:

    sorry.. also what do you think about the Longevity products that Ronke was speaking of?

    • hgh truths says:

      I believed that in our reply to Ronke, we said that the product was pretty worthless. Longevity HGHR has a full review.

  60. John RB says:

    I am a 46 year old male with Erectile Dysfunction; not diabetic. Will this HG help?

    • hgh truths says:

      John RB,
      Many men report an increase in libido and functioning ability but we can’t directly comment on ED because it is considered to be a medical condition.

  61. Bob says:

    I am 49 and into my second week of HGH Surge and would like to tell John RB that this stuff is worth a try. My wife would attest that it is helping me (us). I take only 1 or 2 of these large tabs just before bed, about 3 hours after last eating. I chew them up before swallowing with about 8 oz. of water. They do not taste like chicken but are tolerable. I then take another first thing in the morning and wait 2 hours before I eat. I have been sleeping longer and waking up a bit easier, sometimes “very easy”. My mood seems to be better too.

  62. Manly Man says:

    I have heard from a number people that with HGH supplements a person should take double the suggested amount in order to see results. (I’m not saying I agree, it’s just what I’ve heard.) I was wondering if you have any comments on that, particularly regarding HGH Surge.

    • hgh truths says:

      Manly Man,
      My general answer to this general question is that people are often to busy trying to take more than they are being patient and waiting to see the results from a regular dose. Of course there are a lot of products on the market that would require taking larger dosages because the products are garbage.

      A lot of people find the full dosage of Hgh Surge to be more of a brain chemistry boost then they need. Better to take a smaller dosage of Surge combined with another product.

  63. Mike says:

    Good stuff!
    I’m 45, looking to enhance overall balance in muscle, athletic conditioning, recovery, and sharpness.
    I have taken random supplements, but never stacked or cycled. I want to start cycling products as you suggest.
    How about mixing the brain chemistry benefits of HGH Surge with the high AA muscle building benefits of Life Renewal?

    Thanks, Mike

    • hgh truths says:

      Mixing a lower dose of Surge with extra amino acids is not a bad plan. I would go with a simple arginine pyroglutamate and lysine mix to compliment that which is already in HGH Surge.

  64. Deb says:

    First, thanks for your great research!
    Would it be of any benefit to take Hgh Surge mornings and Gold @ bedtime?

    • hgh truths says:

      That might be fun but first give each one a seperate try first for at least a week so that you have a good idea of the individual effects.

  65. Coo says:

    Hi, i was wondering how young would you say is too young for this product? i wanted to try all the products that you gave a high grade on. i am 20, would you say that is too young for this? thanks for all the reviews by the way!

  66. Jone says:

    With HGH Surge, does it require cycling on and off and what interval do you recommend? Once a person is taking HGH Surge, how soon will you feel the effects of the supplements?


  67. Coo says:

    would you recommend that i stop? because i still have a whole bottles worth. Will it do any harm to me? thank you

    • hgh truths says:

      Read around the site and you will see that these hgh supplements aren’t recommended for young people because they are not effective when people are already near the top of their hormone cycle. A waste of money not a health danger.

  68. Coo says:

    Also, what is the ingredient in here that is not suitable for young people. is it gaba? 5-htp? or just the whole combination? thanks again

  69. Darren says:

    Loving the site. So I thought I’d show appreciation, and no longer remain a silent reader, by adding my 2cents.

    29 years old, been taking the Source Naturals HGH surge every now and then. First time I took five before going to bed: Woke up in the morning, and boy, did it have an effect on my mind. Hard to explain, but the left side of my brain had a weired sensation. Nothing painful, just weired (I don’t do drugs so can’t compare it to anything). Maybe its the impact on the neurotransmitters? Anyway, I freaked out, and had a panic attack; initially I thought it was the 5 tabs taken the night before that made my brain feel ‘funny’ and my heart start beating at 100mph. But it was my fear that the tabs had messed with my mind that induced the panic. I thought I was going to die. Anyhow’s, I called for an ambulance, who took me to the hospitsal, and gave me the all clear. Later on it clicked, my mind was playing tricks on me.

    As I said, I take them every now and then. I do see an improvement in muscle mass when taking them. Still can’t understand the effect it had on my mind though!

    • hgh truths says:

      We are very specific about telling people to try a small dosage of any hgh supplement first. This would be a tablet or less of hgh surge. Some people love the brain chemistry effect and some people don’t.

      Large dosages of arginine increase NO release which is generally a good thing though like any body process it also creates a few waste products. Anti-oxidants are a way to reduce any negative effects of these wate products for people who are concerned by that. I personally don’t see it as a big problem.

  70. Darren says:

    Sorry, got a question:

    Why did you say:
    “The thing with arginine intensive supplements is that if you do not have a diet rich in anti-oxidants, you want to add in a good supplement that takes care of this void.”

    Keep up the good work!


  71. Lewis says:

    I am in my 40’s and have experienced the normal effects of aging in males. I take a centrum multi vitamin in the morning along with the following supplements for high cholestoral – flax seed oil, fish oil, garlic, acai berry, red rice yeast. I have started on a regimen of HGH Surge under the cycles you recommend (5 times a week in the evenings). I am also going to start taking Green Magic since my diet is not as vegetable rich as it should be. My question is do any of these supplement cancel each other out, or are any of these redundant and unecessary?

  72. Lou says:

    Everytime I post on here it dissapears, whats up?

  73. Key says:

    I read the review and thought it’s a good product so I bought 4 bottles. But pills are too large I cannot swallow… Would it be a good idea to grind them in a blender and take them in powder form?

    Thank you very much for this great site.

    • hgh truths says:

      I would try using a pill splitter first. A mortar and pestle or cheap coffee grinder would be a better way to get a powder.

  74. Adrenalinex04 says:


    First, thank you for the wealth of information on your site!

    I have a question– Would it be advisable to get my 62 year old father (who is an airline pilot) started on HGH Surge or Secretagogue Gold? He’s in generally good health, but I do know that age is catching up to him.

    He is currently on certain medication to treat his atrial fibrillation, so I’m a little concerned.


    • hgh truths says:


      Generally either product could be good for a 62 year old but…………………. If your father is on heart medication, Surge probably is not a good choice. He should consult with a physician before even trying any new supplement.

  75. Lewis says:

    Thanks for responding, one more question. Instead of taking HGH everyday should you cycle it as you recommend (5 x week, 3 months on, 1 month off) for as long as you take it or only for a certain period of time.

  76. jason says:

    is taking melatonin with HGH SURGE at night before bed o.k.

  77. Lewis says:

    It’s extremely difficult to find honest information with everyone out there trying to make a buck. Thanks for your assistance and for taking the times to research your information. This site is great!

    • hgh truths says:

      Happy to be of assistance. If you get a chance, any friendly mentions to people in your social networks are greatly appreciated.

  78. Katie says:

    I’ve read so much about HGH and wanted to try it for increasing my energy levels and mood(I tend to be depressive). I just bought HGH Surge but will not use it before finding out whether 18 is too young of an age to start taking HGH boosters. What age is appropriate?
    Thank you in advance

  79. Larry B says:

    I have been taking HGH surge for several months and doing P 90 x and yoga for about 6 months. I am 52 years old and my body (not the face) looks now like a 25 year old. The strength and endurance change is incredible. My question now is that I am starting to realize that this stuff may be affecting my sleep although this is not conclusive. I have also found that if you take it about 1 hour before a workout you seem to have more energy and endurance. Should I abandon taking it before sleep and do it just before a workout. Is this effective. Also what would be an alternative to try besides this product. Secretegogue Gold
    really messes up my bowel movements when I take it so that is apparently not an option.

  80. Jay K says:

    Just a quick ? I am 32 years old. I work out 4-5 days a week and play ball or some sort of cardio 4 days a week. In very good shape already but hit a plateau and not seeing the results I want as far as strength is concerned. Not sure if i just run my body too hard( which I love) but it seems to take longer and longer to recover these days. I know age has something to do with it. I already take a lot of nutritional supplements, protein, and eat very well. Was wondering if you think the Surge or the Gold would work well for me to keep the edge and also increase my strength in the process. If so which product for us in the early 30’s would you suggest. Great Web site btw, very helpful.
    Thank you.

  81. Patti says:

    Are HGH Surge and Secretagogue Gold 3rd generation liposomes? Thanks!

  82. Paul says:

    I just googled HGH Surge because I ran out and am traveling wanted to find out where to get more.

    Can tell you I use before bed. I love the way it makes me dream and the fact that I remember all of them. I wake very rested.

    I used to work nights and occasionally would use Ambien I will use once in a while, but found I really like the HGH Surge non addicting and the DREAMS are AWESOME!!!!!

    Dosage: If I took a whole 10mg ambien, I would get restless leg really bad about 3 hours into the night.

    As a 180pound guy, if I take all 5 HGH Surge pills I get the same restless leg thing. I know ??? weird. So I will use 3 sometimes 4 if it is early. I do not take 4 if I know I will have to get up in 6 hours or less.

    I work out avidly but have never used pre workout.

    Love this Product and just thought since I saw this site I woudl add a comment.

  83. Denise says:

    Just wondering if there’s any side effects other than weird dreams?


  84. a white says:

    how do surge or secretagogue gold affect migraines? love your site

  85. seeshell says:

    I am 74 and considering Source Naturals HGH Surge. What dosage should I start with Can I expect to loose weight and lower Colesteral? What other effects might I have?

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